William's Traditional Singlecut

[imported_Anonymous]

Really nice quilt on this one. Another surprise guitar. Lots of cool features on this one... Blueprints being drawn by my little elves! :D



http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7047326/95482810.jpg

[imported_Bryan]

Maybe the elves will share some details.. :lol:

[imported_Shadscbr]

Maybe the elves will share some details.. :lol:

+1 :)

The top looks great!

Shad

[imported_vangit]

Love the wood, but that's a Chopper template.

[imported_Schroeder]

Fixed!! :D

[imported_DrPCR]

man had a heart attack, for a moment there, I thought I was getting the same guitar as STU ;)

[imported_vangit]

man had a heart attack, for a moment there, I thought I was getting the same guitar as STU ;)

Not the same body style, but the same color............ :lol:

[imported_Hansv]

Nice wood choice Will. I am probably going to order a singlecut from him a lot like your 3 single coil PS PRS but with EMGs and some other unique features...your singlecut is a beauty. I am going to start slimming my collection down and morphing all the features I like into a few guitars. Can't wait to see how yours turns out.

[imported_DrPCR]

You like the wood huh? thanks.

I thought you gave up forums?

here some 3 pup SC porn for you
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/drpcr/singlecut/triplehumSCs.jpg

[imported_vangit]

I do believe you are the only person with PRS 3 pup porn

[imported_Schroeder]

Very nice Will. That blue quilt is killer but I REALLY like that cream SC!

[imported_Shadscbr]

Hey Doc.....the blue quilt looks sweet! If you don't mind, I am going to save that pic and put it in my Schroeder color choice folder :)

BTW- your harem gives me tremendous GAS!!!!!

Shad

[imported_DrPCR]

no problem, if you need more pics, I can send them to you and Jason.

[imported_Hansv]

I gave up THE forum :) I just joined this one incase I go through with my orders and I wante to cite your guitars for my reference. Your studio with flamed maple fingerboard that I almost bought also, is the green I think I am going to go for... I haven't decided on flamed or quilt though yet.

[imported_DrPCR]

Stu is selling his 90 studio for less, and its a killer guitar, go for it hans

[imported_Hansv]

Yeah I stared at stu's for quite a long time. It is a beauty, I am going to try to cover the studio like guitar with one of Schroder's similar to your Singlecut.

[imported_vangit]

Yeah I stared at stu's for quite a long time. It is a beauty, I am going to try to cover the studio like guitar with one of Schroder's similar to your Singlecut.

Can't go wrong with that! I sold my McCarty rosewood trem to order my Schroeder. I'm going single-single-hum.

[imported_DrPCR]

ok Jason, here is my other trio,

so now I need 3 JS guitars :)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/drpcr/forsale/driskilltrio.jpg

[imported_Hansv]

Ohhh nice, didn't know you had 3 Driskills... very nice.

[imported_vangit]

Awsome :!: :!:

[imported_Schroeder]

Here is Will's top going through the planer. This thing popped like you would not believe!! The highlights in the bubble quilt are so irridescent. Fantastic piece of maple.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7918991/106504714.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

That is Mitchell in the pic above by the way...

[imported_DrPCR]

ahhh dewalt, my favorite brand of tools.

Man, I lucked out on that maple top. Thanks Jason! looking forward to more!

[imported_vangit]

That wood sure did pop! Crazy how much figuring with the wood still being raw.

[imported_Schroeder]

Sorry about the glare! You get the idea though. Nice looking top... :D

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7918991/106646166.jpg

[imported_vangit]

Crazy depth to the quilt! Awsome.

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

yes that is going to be a gorgeous top on WIlliams guitar ! :D

[imported_Shadscbr]

Sweet top Doc!! It should hang very nicely with the rest of your incredible collection :)

Shad

[imported_Bryan]

Very nice wood Doc!!!

[imported_DrPCR]

man, just saw the pic, awesome, even the parts that are going to be cut off are amazing.

Hey jason, you going to save the scraps for test peices when u stain, or other uses?

[imported_Schroeder]

Will,
I always keep the scraps! They are piling up though. I will use them for various details on the guitar and for color samples. Did you have something in mind? Headstock veneer would be killer!
J

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

I was going to say headstock overlays...althought I'm not exactly sure if they can be used for that since I'm no builder haha...would be cool to have a nice square sample of each color you've done on a color to create a physical "sample sheet" like you said :D

[imported_DrPCR]

Will,
I always keep the scraps! They are piling up though. I will use them for various details on the guitar and for color samples. Did you have something in mind? Headstock veneer would be killer!
J

thats what I was thinking exactly! but you have to plane it forever?

[imported_Chun13]

Aouch ! That quilt is exactly what I want ! AWESOME RIVER man !

[imported_Schroeder]

Will,
I always keep the scraps! They are piling up though. I will use them for various details on the guitar and for color samples. Did you have something in mind? Headstock veneer would be killer!
J

thats what I was thinking exactly! but you have to plane it forever?

Will, it isn't that difficult, you just need to bandsaw first then plane it using a Safe-T-Planer on the drill press, then belt sand it smooth. Glue it to the headstock and you are good to go. I think it would look pretty sweet. Especially if it was on the front and back of the headstock!

[imported_DrPCR]

well, there you go! I want the options!

[imported_Schroeder]

Here is my challenge of the week!!! And it was a huge success. Thanks Will. And thanks for being patient. I have been contemplating this for the past couple of weeks. Sort of like a surgeon going through the knee surgery over and over in his head before he actually operates!! ;)

I had to figure out the best way to carve an F-hole in a semi-hollow for Will's Prototype Traditional Single Cutaway. So what IU decided on was to do a rough cutout of the body shape leaving about an inch all around teh perimeter so I have a nice big gluing surface. But I cut the body shape to its final dimensions near the F-hole and where the body will be semi-hollow.

Here is the layout with my plans drawn on the guitar. Notice the skirt around the perimeter in all but the area near the F-hole.
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480083.jpg

And here it is rough cut on the bandsaw and sanded to final dimensions near the F-hole.
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480076.jpg

Things are getting tricky here. I then carved only the portion near the F-hole to final dimensions. This was important because it will be my guide for cutting the UNDERSIDE of the top in the next steps.


http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480072.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

And here is the layout for the underside. Sort of ugly at this point! You can the outline of the recess where the F-hole will be. This will also coincide with the sound chamber. Noitce I drew the bridge location and the location of the bridge pickup for reference. The center of the F-hole is traditionally located at the bridge location.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480064.jpg

I needed a guide so that I could determine where to stop carving the underside of the top. So I drilled a screw through an old template and clamped it to my drill press table. The tip of the screw lined up exactly with a 1/8" dril bit. I then set the depth stop on my drill press so that I would drill into the maple but it would stop short of the screw by about 3/16".

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480058.jpg

I put a lot of masking tape on the body and sanded the tip off of the screw to prevent damage to the top. I then started drilling holes into the back of the guitar within the lines I had drawn for the cavity.
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480055.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

I continued to put holes in the underside of the top, concentrating most on the area where the F-hole will be.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480052.jpg

Time to take the grinder to the back!! Now all I have to do is grind down to the bottom of the holes. Pretty ugly at this point.
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480049.jpg

Almost there.
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480046.jpg

Cleaned up with the orbital sander...
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480040.jpg

And here it is complete and ready to cut the F-hole, then glue.
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108480030.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

By the way, Will, check out the first pic in this latest batch. The maple board was plenty long enough to save some veneer material for the headstock! It will look SO nice.

[imported_Bryan]

Very cool!!
I'm excited to see this one come together.
Awesome Jason!! Congrats Will!

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

wow that was quite some work there in the last few posts Jason...I'm still not following exactly what is being done here looks pretty intense (and sounds intense) :)

[imported_Schroeder]

Hey Tommy,
There are really two reasons to do what i described above. One affects sound, the other affects the look of the completed guitar. With a semi-hollow and tone chambered guitar with an F-hole, it will resonant differently and be notably louder when played acoustically. On an electric it is often considered less critical to tone than other factors but it will change the feel of the guitar for sure. The top is thinned form the backside so that the area of the top that is near the F-hole will vibrate more readily (less stiff than a top that is not hollowed from the underside). Also, it is so that the F-hole will reveal a uniform thickness around its perimeter.
J

PS - thanks Bryan!

[imported_Shadscbr]

Looks sweet Jason!!....congrats Will! :)

Shad

[imported_woody]

Beatiufl work Jason, its really nice to see the maple underside carving & thinning job.
This one is gonna be a tone machine :twisted:

[imported_vangit]

Well I'm not ashamed to admit you totally lost me in your explaination, but it sure does look amazing.

[imported_DrPCR]

ok, typing this from vacation land, man that looks awesome. I got an email from Jason to check out the thread, man that looks just amazing.

I'm also lost on alot of the tech issues, but thats why Jason is building it, not ME!

[imported_Schroeder]

OK, no tech discussion tonight!! :) Just pics. I spent a couple hours working on the soundhole tonight. Will was trusting enough to let me design my own soundhole for his guitar. I really appreciate that vote of confidence!! I have been thinking of something original for the last couple of weeks. This design is pretty close to one I designed a few years back when I was really studing Jimmy D'Aquisto's work. It is inspired by the soundholes on a couple of my favorite D'Aquisto designs, with (hopefully) my own flavor:

the Solo:
http://www.seriousacoustics.com/gifs/daq-solo1.jpg

And the Excel:
http://www.mandoweb.com/83-4542.jpg

Here is what I came up with:
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108642082.jpg

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108642080.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

Here is how I got it to that point.

The main cutouts:



http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108642096.jpg

Patented Schroeder low-tech solution!!

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108642094.jpg

Smoothed a little with the drill bit chucked into the drill press.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108642091.jpg

Sanded smooth:
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108642087.jpg

And complete with the end detail:

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108642082.jpg

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

ohh looks very sexy...great job Jason on the design and the finished product..how about a "full top" shot so we can see it in proportion to the whole body ? :D

[imported_vangit]

+ one Tommy, damn sexy!

[imported_Bryan]

Thats really intense!!
Great job Jason..Beautiful!!!

[imported_Schroeder]

Here is a quick mockup. I took the picture on black felt and digitally cut out the edge so you can see the proportions.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/108646925.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

PS - Thanks guys!

[imported_edgarallanpoe]

WOW!!! Thats cool as hell....great job Jason.

[imported_Shadscbr]

It looks great Jason...a nice change from the standard f-hole :)

Shad

[imported_JohnnyBoy]

Looks great Jason, love the design; it compliments the Schroeder "S" perfectly!

John

[imported_edgarallanpoe]

One more suggestion...

BIND THOSE HOLES!!! lol

Binding an F-hole is one of the coolest touches one can put on an instrument. It also really makes the hole stand visually out on the guitar.

Again...great job Jason. Spectacular work, and a very unique look. I dig it.

[imported_Schroeder]

Cool, I am glad the S-holes are being received well! Hope Will is OK with them too! :) As for binding, I would agree, as long as the rest of the body was bound. But this one will have faux binding so binding the soundhole would not look quite right. It is another one of those beauty in the eye of the beholder things... But I can make more!! :D

[imported_DrPCR]

just saw the thread, beautiful Jason, classy yet distinctly your own!

I agree with Jason, on the binding issue.

My vacation is turning out great! haha, relaxation and guitar porn!

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

very very nice....looks great with the whole body shot...nice work Jason !

[imported_sleepingtiger]

I'll give you the same compliment that brought a big grin to Mr. Smith's face, in a very brief conversation I was priviledged to have with him at NAMM,
"Thanks for giving us functional art!"
I meant it then & I mean it now.
There is an artistic, individual touch you bring to each piece you touch. Unique, Classy & Classic. I can't wait for my turn!
BRAVO!

[imported_CustomX]

Schroeder, Im really looking forward to seeing this guitar completed...I absolutely love singlecuts and this one looks delicious already.

[imported_Schroeder]

Here are pics of the body cavity being cut...

The rough outline:
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109029551.jpg

After rough fitting (almost right!):

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109029550.jpg

View of limba through S-hole (note pencil marks on edge of S-hole where I will touch up by sanding):
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109029543.jpg

The top is ready to glue to the limba. Should be done tomorrow. I need to make a clamping caul that I will use to clamp the body that was not carved. I will use about 7-8 spring clamps in the area of the cavity.

[imported_Chun13]

AWESOME

AWESOME AWESOME



did I already say AWESOME ?? :shock:

[imported_Shadscbr]

<shakes fist> Damn you Jason....those "s-holes" are really growing on me....I bet you are going to make me order a Schroeder hollowbody next aren't you? :D

Hey Doc...your guitar is stunning! I'm happy to share a piece of flamed limba with you :D

Shad

[imported_JohnnyBoy]

AMAZING! I just love seeing those progress pics. :D


Doc, congrats on this beauty; can't wait to see it completed!

John

[imported_Bryan]

Loooks great guys!

[imported_Schroeder]

Here is the latest. I have finished the body cavity and soundhole, glued the quilted maple back to the body, and now the top is clamped to the body. After the glue dries I will be ready to finish cutting the outline and carve the top.

Here is the back glued to the body with a view of what will be seen through the soundhole...

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109259075.jpg

A tradition in archtop guitar making is to sign the underside of the top before gluing. Notice that I have applied Tung oil to seal the wood that will be exposed in the cavity upon completion.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109259073.jpg

Here is the top being clamped to the body.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109259072.jpg

And here is a shot of the side. Note the maple back which was thinned to about 0.30". The limba was thinned to about 1.1" so that the final thickness will be approximately the same as a standard guitar.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109259071.jpg

[imported_Bryan]

Man thats really something Jason..Wow!!!
I bet that guitar will sound as great unplugged as it will plugged in!!
Is it going to have piezo?
Awesome job Jason and congrats there Will!!.. :D

[imported_JohnnyBoy]

Extremely cool. Jason, you are a true craftsman! Thanks again for sharing "the process"!

John

[imported_DrPCR]

wow haven't been on the net in days, just saw these pics. WOW JASON.

Yes it will have a piezo trem, LR baggs, x-bridge, same as the one on my PS aquamarine quilt top SC. I need to get back in town and send stuff to Jason, he's working too fast, haha.

[imported_Schroeder]

Here are some pics of the top carve mostly complete. Still some detail work to do after the pickup cavitis and neck pocket are done.

Cutting the edge rabbit to be used as a guide for the carve.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109915510.jpg



What looks like a flat edge on the upper non-cutaway is a fold in the balck felt that the guitar is sitting on.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109915506.jpg

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109915504.jpg

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109915498.jpghttp://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/109915501.jpg

[imported_vangit]

Unreal Jason! Any pics of the maple on the back?

[imported_Shadscbr]

Definately looking sweet!! mmmmmmmm quilt top and back....too cool :D

Shad

[imported_Schroeder]

Unreal Jason! Any pics of the maple on the back?

The third pic above is the maple on the back. I will take more!

[imported_vangit]

Wow. The back wood looks awsome.

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

Awesome looking...definetly will have to order a SC with an F-hole down the road now :)

[imported_Schroeder]

Here is the state of Will's neck. The 'ears' are glued on and the quilted maple headstock veneer is glued.

It is pictured with Shad's 7-string neck... Again, sorry for the terrible photos tonight.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7695407/111001024.jpg

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

very cool...love the flamed maple up there at the headstock !

[imported_vangit]

Headstock vaneer looks real nice.

[imported_Shadscbr]

Hey Doc, your neck is really shaping up nicely!! The matching quilt headstock is a very nice touch. :D

Shad

[imported_JohnnyBoy]

Headstock vaneer looks real nice.

+1

That's going to be one incredible neck!

John

[imported_Bryan]

Very classy Will, I like it. :D

[imported_DrPCR]

Here is the state of Will's neck. The 'ears' are glued on and the quilted maple headstock veneer is glued.

It is pictured with Shad's 7-string neck... Again, sorry for the terrible photos tonight.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7695407/111001024.jpg

Just got back home from all these trips. Montana was exhausting.

Man that neck looks like my 7 string baker for width, haha. I love the 7 string neck with the flame maple. Nice work Jason, drooling...

[imported_Schroeder]

Here are a couple pics of the all S inlays on the neck. What I love about Will is that when we talk, he knows instantly what he likes or what he doesn't like. And he has really challenged me on this guitar! I showed Will a few different options for inlay patterns including this one, others were combinations of S inlays and dots. My instinct was that there were a lot of Ss on this guitar! I suggested dots with an S at the 12th fret, but Will preferred this option so I went for it trusting him. And I am so glad I did!! I really like how it turned out. Now I am on to the stainless steel frets and I can fit the neck to the body and carve the neck back.

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/neck%2520inlaid.jpg

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/neckinlaydetail.jpg

[imported_Shadscbr]

:shock: Congrats Will, and nice work Jason! I love the inlays.

I can't wait to see the body and neck together :D

Shad

[imported_DrPCR]

Don't give me any Credit! Its all you, jason, u still had to do all the work. I'm glad it came out, its totally awesome. I think you found your signature inlays!

[imported_Schroeder]

Here are a couple pics of Will's neck on the body. Starting to look like a guitar!!!

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918991/112507757.jpg

And another shot with(L-R) Will's, Stu's, Shad's and Mike's.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7918975/112507750.jpg

[imported_woody]

Signature inlay eh! Nice to see Jason & Will's humble collabration works. :)

[imported_DrPCR]

hey woody, where in canuck land are you EH? I'm an canuck too.

[imported_woody]

Hey Will,
Cool to see 2 Schroeder guitars order from Canuck. I am in Burnaby.
Check yourl PM, maybe we can have a mini tonefest!

Johnson

[imported_DrPCR]

sorry woody, canuck in the USA. Next time I'm in BC, I'll look you up!

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

very cool inlays !!! looks awsome, great idea ! looks like I'm going to be joining you in that "plain jane" club Bryan ! seems we'll be the only two with "naked" necks at this rate haha

[imported_Schroeder]

Hey Tommy!
There are actualyl a few more very simply inlaid or non-inlaid necks coming. Some like them simple and elegant, some like them fancy! Besides, with the tops you guys have chosen, NO ONE really is getting a plain Jane! There is really only one pending order that will qualify as plain to the best of my recollection!
J

[imported_DrPCR]

actually I wanted Jason to make this huge S shaped snake down the whole fretboard, but it would take too long ;)

Hmmm next JS guitar :)

[imported_Schroeder]

Here is Will's neck pocket. This looks so beautiful in person. The flames showing through and the dark streaks in the Limba. I will be fitting the neck later today and I will take some mockup photos. You can see that the treble side of the neck pocket needs to be trimmed. I leave it on so it can support the jig as I am routing.

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/will%20neck%20pocket.JPG

[imported_Shadscbr]

Sweet!! I can't wait to see a pic of the neck and body together :)

Shad

[imported_vangit]

wow that looks great. :!:

[imported_DrPCR]

wow, looks interesting, that pocket is bigger than I expected. hey Jason, is one or 2 pups going to cover that pocket?

[imported_Schroeder]

Here, these may make you feel better!!! Still some shaping to do in the cutaway. The way I make guitars is very iterative. I work from both ends until things look right then I stop. So I generally will leave a little extra here or there that gets trimmed after the following step. For example I waited to trim the cutaway until the neck was set and placed. Not glued but I knew how it would all look once the neck was there. Anyway, I am getting REALLY excited about this guitar!! Do I have to send it out, Will?!! :D

Here is the initial neck placement. Note extra wood in the cutout adjacent to the neck...
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/William_neckset1.gif

Here is a detail of the cutaway carve being refined...
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/William_neckset2.gif

And here it is with only minor refinement left. I am basically ready to start routing pickup cavities...
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/William_neckset3.gif

For reference, the bridge will be located in line with the split in the S hole.
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/William_neckset4.gif

And the back...
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/William_neckset5.gif

[imported_Schroeder]

A couple more... Check out the flamed limba through the S hole!!
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/William_neckset6.gif

Here is another shot. I put a touch of naptha on these last few pics to highlight the figure, it was drying in this pic so it looks a bit uneven. I need to be qicker on the trigger!!
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/William_neckset7.gif

[imported_Shadscbr]

Outstanding!! :)

Shad

[imported_DrPCR]

Ok, ok I just wet myself ;)

Hmm, guess I need to send you the pups huh?

Jason, can't even believe how nice this thing is turning out.

[imported_DrPCR]

I just noticed, there is a bat flying in the quilt of that guitar, if I put a single pup there, will it be lost?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/drpcr/jsguitar/batscjpg.jpg

[imported_vangit]

Will, I know how much you hate bats. I'll do what any good friend would do, I'll take it off your hands!!

BTW, have you guys ever seen a 24 fret SC body before?

[imported_Schroeder]

I will cut the humbucker pickup routes first and see if it covers that bat. The bat's tail may be shortened a bit by the bridge humbucker. :) I like the butterfly on the back too!

[imported_Chun13]

AWESOME !

I want a singlecut !

JASON, I've decided ! :)

Did you receive my mail ?

[imported_Schroeder]

Hey Chun!
You got it man. I am really happy with this design so far. I have not received anything yet but I will let you know. Give me a shout when you get a chance so we can talk wood!! The fun begins...
Jason

[imported_woody]

Holly! This is a monster guitar. I feel like placing a 2nd Schroeder :shock:

[imported_vangit]

Holly! This is a monster guitar. I feel like placing a 2nd Schroeder :shock:

I'm going to get my second order in before you to cut down on the wait time!

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

wow that thing is turning out so unique and amazing !!! nice choice of styles William !! I'm really really contemplating selling a couple of my LP's and putting in a few more orders and I haven't even gotten my guitar yet :lol:

[imported_vangit]

wow that thing is turning out so unique and amazing !!! nice choice of styles William !! I'm really really contemplating selling a couple of my LP's and putting in a few more orders and I haven't even gotten my guitar yet :lol:

That's how I funded my first Schroeder. :D

[imported_DrPCR]

Yes the signature SC is coming into place, just wonder whats my cut on every order placed ;)

[imported_Schroeder]

Here are a couple more pics of the body. Spent quite a bit of time with the SC proto today getting the body contours how I wanted them. It obviously has very different geometry so I am getting used to carving the SC.... Liking it a lot so far!! Sanded to 220.

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/will-body-refined.gif

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/will-body-refined2.gif

[imported_Chun13]

WAOW WAOW WAOW :shock:

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

wow...simply gorgeous !

[imported_edgarallanpoe]

That sound hole kicks ass. What a beautiful guitar. Jason, you just keep getting better and better...great work bro.

[imported_Schroeder]

Thanks guys!!

[imported_DrPCR]

And to think I had to convince you to build me a guitar, hahaha. I'm in awe!!

[imported_Schroeder]

Here is William's neck carved.... Brazilian!!!

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/neck-carve1.gif
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/neck-carve2.gif

[imported_vangit]

Man he's gotta be happy with that! Great job.

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

looks great...I'm really digging the SC

[imported_Chun13]

Yummy !

[imported_Shadscbr]

Beautiful!! That neck looks good enought to eat :D

Shad

[imported_Bryan]

Lookin great!!1
Wont be long until you're playin her Doc!!!

[imported_Schroeder]

Can you believe it? I actually tore myself away from the house to do a bit on Will's guitar. I was challenged with trying to make a belly carve in the back of Will's semi-hollow which has a quilted maple back. The area where the belly carve is normally situated is essentially like an acoustic, not much wood behind it so I had to be very careful to not go through the edge and into the sound chamber. Here is what I came up with. It really makes a difference in comfort. The sharp top edge blends into a rounded edge and there is a slight recess that extends a couple inches into the back of the guitar. Subtle but effective. I think it also makes the body look less boxy and much more dramatic, especialy at askew angles.

Notice also that I cut the bridge pickup cavity. I will be trimming a bit off of the bottom of the neck to make it sit a bit deeper into the neck pocket. After that time I will cut the area of the neck where the pickup will be placed.

Pics:

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/belly-carve.gif
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/belly-carve-front.gif
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/belly-carve-back.gif

[imported_sleepingtiger]

Wonderful to see the sculptor is at work! Beautiful!!!

[imported_Schroeder]

It was like putting on an old shoe Tony!! It is so nice to find a bit of time to in the shop! I can't wait to hear this guitar!! It just feels killer in your hands.

[imported_vangit]

Looks awsome Jason

Since everyone sems to like the way I review guitars, I think you better send it to me before Will :D

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

hahahah Stu...that's funny...the guitar looks great...nice to see progress is being made in the shop again :lol:

[imported_Shadscbr]

Looks great Jason, I love the contour :)

Shad

[imported_DrPCR]

Thanks Jason, looks awesome! I love the comment that it feels like an old friend, that tells me its going to be KILLER

So guys, origininally I was going with HUM SINGLE HUM?

Should I just keep it HUM HUM?

[imported_Schroeder]

Some of this was posted in another section but I wanted to keep it in the thread. Here is the latest on Will's guitar: Headstock is complete. Holes have been drilled to accept the tuners.

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/headstock.jpg

Here is a pic of the guide hole for the top and rear cavities for the tremelo. It is placed at the corner of each of the templates to make sure everything lines up correctly (front and back). Sorry about the bad pic, it was taken with the camera phone. If you look closely you can see that I have notes written in pencil on the guitar for which procedure will come next. The two lines you can see coming from the pickup cavity toward the bridge location is the extension of the sides of the neck to make sure that my bridge location lines up perfectly with the position of the neck. You can also see the guide holes for the bridge anchors -very small at this point. The short line between the bridge anchor locations is the mark for scale length.

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/Picture038.jpg

Here is the cavity cut from the back:

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/back-cavity.jpg

[imported_Shadscbr]

Sweet!! It's great to see you are back in the shop again Jason!! :D

Hey Doc, have you decided on a color yet?

Shad

[imported_Schroeder]

He has, not sure if I am allowed to say though! :)

[imported_Shadscbr]

He has, not sure if I am allowed to say though! :)

C'mon Doc.....spill it!! :D

Shad

[imported_DrPCR]

actually I had, but now I changed my mind,

Hey Jason did you get my email? :)

[imported_Schroeder]

Hey Will,
I think we are on the same page. You ousted that certain rare color you initially wanted and you have chosen the new color for which you sent me the color samples. I think you made the right choice!! Can't wait to start mixing the dyes for that!!!
Jason

[imported_vangit]

Hey Will,
I think we are on the same page. You ousted that certain rare color you initially wanted and you have chosen the new color for which you sent me the color samples. I think you made the right choice!! Can't wait to start mixing the dyes for that!!!
Jason

Will let me in on his choice. That would look sick :shock:

[imported_sleepingtiger]

I don't even know & I'm excited, hehe!

[imported_DrPCR]

yeah, I'm excited that Jason is going to try it out. Can't wait....

[imported_sleepingtiger]

I'm excited, that you're excited!
Isn't this exciting?!!!

PS - Are you excited, that I'm excited, that you're excited?....hmmm.....Am I excited or just confused?....... :twisted:

[imported_DrPCR]

down boy!

[imported_sleepingtiger]

Thanks.....I needed that!

I just go done watching Monty Python....I guess it took longer than usual to wear off.
In all seriousness, congrats on the progress on you guitar! It's nice to see things moving along, huh?
Tony

[imported_Schroeder]

I THINK I have Doc's control cavities worked out if he approves them (e-mail sent...). I hope he has a chance to check them out if he is away on business. There is a lot going on with his electronics including a piezo with preamp so I needed a smaller compartment for the 9 volt. The smaller cover will accomplish that. Otherwise the backplate and cavity would be huge. I think this breaks it up nicely. Covers are made from Brazilian RW.


http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/back%20plates%202.jpg
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/back%20plates.jpg

[imported_vangit]

The covers looks beautiful. I do think Doc is at a conference.

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

I like the design of the covers on the back...matches the front nicely 8)

[imported_Shadscbr]

Very Nice!! The covers look really slick...beautiful design :D

Shad

[imported_DrPCR]

just got back late last night and this morning checked my email.

Looks great Jason, great ideas. I haven't vetoed you on anything, so you know I trust ya!

Just everytime I'm out of town on business, Jason has to contact me when he is doing work on the guitar, I need to travel more often!!

[imported_vangit]

I need to travel more often!!

Come to Jersey, weather is pretty good :D

When you get a chance, can you post the pic of all your cases that I once saw? Put it on my progress thread, Will wanted to see it.

[imported_DrPCR]

Well I might be in philly in a couple of months on business again

Here is the pic of my case collection

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/drpcr/PRS/IMG_4150.jpg

[imported_Will]

I bet Jimmy Hoffa is buried somewhere in there!

Thanks a great picture!

[imported_Schroeder]

Man, this thing is going to stand out like a sore thumb in that room!!! :)

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Case/case-closed-upright.gif

[imported_DrPCR]

actually not really, one of my PS SC came with a LP style ameritage case since they didn't make SC at that time

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/drpcr/private%20stock/IMG_4759.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/drpcr/private%20stock/IMG_4760.jpg

oh that pic is just like half my case collection.

Jimmy H, I think maybe found near my place. Horse ranch I believe :)

[imported_Schroeder]

Here are a couple of pics of Will's guitar before the sealer coat. More pics to come of the staining process...

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/top%20ready%20for%20sealer.jpg

And here is the back with the S jack plate set in place.
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/back%20ready%20for%20sealer.jpg

[imported_DrPCR]

Jason, you have done it again!!!! Man sweetness

[imported_vangit]

Looks fantastic. Can't wait for the sealer. Getting close............

[imported_Shadscbr]

Yeah Baby!!!!

It looks killer Jason! I can't wait to see more :)

Shad

[imported_Schroeder]

Just a few teaser pic for y'all.... I shot it with sealer this morning (before it got really hot) and then came back just a bit ago and put on a couple coats of nitro.

This morning after the sealer coat...

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/top%20seal%20coat.jpg

And as it sits just a few moments ago. These pics are darker than the guitar in person. Running out of daylight.

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/back%20nitro.jpg

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/top%20nitro%202.jpg
[/img]

[imported_Schroeder]

A pic of teh headstock.

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/headstock%20nitro%202.jpg

[imported_woody]

Wow, great work Jason. Very tasty quilt.
I now can visualize my singlecu better.
I am more excited than Dr. 8)

[imported_Will]

This guitar is looking insane in person. Quite lively! Dr. Will is definately getting one beautiful peice of work. Jason has done a wonderfull job on this. Very sweet guitar!

[imported_Schroeder]

A couple more shots in the sun this morning... Kinda hoping the Doc cancels his order!!! ;) Kidding. Really happy with how this is turning out.

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/top%20in%20sun.jpg
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/back%20in%20sun.jpg
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Will/top%20whole%20in%20sun.jpg

[imported_JohnnyBoy]

OUTSTANDING!!!!!! :shock: :shock:

[imported_sleepingtiger]

BEAUTIFUL, absolutely beautiful!

[imported_woody]

I love the contour of the singlecut, very classic yet hot-rod!

[imported_Shadscbr]

:shock:

I bet Doc just passed out!! :D

Stunning...nice pics too :)

Shad

[imported_vangit]

Wow that guitar is just coming alive! Fantasic.

Have you named the color yet?

[imported_DrPCR]

man everytime I leave town and check this forum, my guitar gets worked on.

Looks awesome Jason.

Can't wait!

[imported_Elizabeth]

Dr-
The color you picked looks AMAZING on that quilt! Great choice!
:shock:
Elizabeth

[DrPCR]

I think any color that I proposed to Jason would have looked great.

[Schroeder]

Will,
Your guitar is hanging with a couple more fresh coats of lacquer, I have a couple more coats to go. Pore filled the sides. Just have some stubborn pores in the limba that need to be closed and she will be ready to let cure for about 2 weeks.
Jason

[Schroeder]

Finish is done and buffed. So it is on to final assembly: Still have a bit to do. Electronics cavities need shielding paint, wiring harness needs to be dropped in and plates need to have final fitting. Pickups need final plaement and screw holes drilled. Sounds really good acoustic!! Can't wait to get it plugged in!

http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/will%20lorez.jpg

Slightly different light...

http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/will%20body2.jpg

http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/will%20back%20lorez.jpg

[sleepingtiger]

Now that looks sweet!
Now say it five times fast..."my guitar has an S-hole"

A fine piece of craftsmanship, you've both gotta be delighted!
Tony

[JohnnyBoy]

That is truly a stunning piece of work. I love the look of the knobs and backplates. Sweeeet!!

John

[tequilaboy85]

Jason any time you post some updates your works seems always better!

William's singlucut is simply gorgeous.

Congrats to both!

[guitarnyc]

wow what a stunning finished (almost) product...great job Jason and great choices will !
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Utg elite tactical holster handed (http://airsoft-shop.info/p/utg-elite-tactical-holster-handed/)

[vangit]

Looks amazing. The bookmatch is unreal.

[goof1073]

Just awesome Jason!!!

I can only imagine how excited you must be to get your hands on the guitar Will...

[DrPCR]

This guitar is not only about Jason building a great guitar. Its a testament to his skill, what Stu and I believed in him. Also he is my friend. Its a guitar of friendship. I can't wait to play this thing and have it forever.

[Will]

Man! That looks great Dr. Will!

[DrPCR]

thanks Will, Jason is finishing it up, so I hope to be playing it soon.

[Shadscbr]

That's going to be one sweet xmas present Doc :)

Shad

[Schroeder]

Shipped today... This guitar can do just about anything!!!

Features include:

LR Baggs Trem with piezo and Ctrl-X system
Splittable humbuckers
Semi-Hollow with "S" hole
"S" inlays down the fingerboard
Quilted top, back and headstock veneer
24 frets
Brazilian neck and ebony board
Black limba body core
Brazilian back plates and truss rod cover
Tiger Eye nitrocellulose finish
Sperzel locking tuners


http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/will%20sc%20complete%20small.jpg
http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/will%20sc%20complete2%20small.jpg

http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/will%20sc%20complete4%20small.jpg
http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/will%20sc%20complete5%20small.jpg

[Schroeder]

Very subtle tummy cut...

http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/will%20sc%20complete6%20small.jpg

http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/will%20sc%20complete7%20small.jpg
http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/will%20sc%20complete8%20small.jpg

[Schroeder]

And of coruse, the videos...

http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/MOV07700.MPG
http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/MOV07704.MPG
http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/MOV07705.MPG
http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/William%20Singlecut/MOV07710.MPG

[sxracer193]

Man that is a work of art. Just Beautiful.

[t_hamill]

Time for a new laptop, this, this one is covered in drool.......mmmmm nice!!

[Shadscbr]

That guitar is one of my favorites of all time, great work Jason...have fun Doc! :)

Shad

[goof1073]

Killer guitar in every regards...enjoy it Will!!!!

[JohnnyBoy]

Ahhh, Riviera Paradise!!! Looks and sounds sweet guys, congrats on a great project. That there is one versatile geetar. Congrats Doc!!!

[DrPCR]

thanks guys, the guitar looks and sounds great. Will be here on friday, hopefully I will have a bit of time to play it, I'm just swamped at work and really haven't been playing much these days.

[guitarnyc]

oh no...tomorrow is the big day ! Those sound clips sound great...listend to them again...great sounding and looking guitar Will !
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Star Craft 2 Replay (http://screplays.com)

[DrPCR]

(&&&^*^*&#)(#*(#$*#(# FEDEX, I hate them. They now are going to deliver it maybe tommorow.

I F&**#)*#)( hate FEDEX. It took 2 days from Jasons to make it to sacremento????? were they using cows and hearding it down?

[Shadscbr]

Aww man, i saw you post to this thread and i thought for sure you had it....DOH!

good luck, i hope you get it tomorrow :)

Shad

[vangit]

Man that blows. Happened to me recently. Fingers crossed you get it tomorrow.

[DrPCR]

Just got the guitar thanks all. There is a small issue with the guitar, nothing too big, just looks like a bit of the clear coat was damaged, nothing to get exctited about and I don't know how it could have happen, I will discuss it with Jason. Plays nice, the clean sound is really nice, the peizo is excellent. Really plays great unplugged, the semi hollow realy makes a difference. I played it about 15 minutes. Didn't even the notice the finish problem till I was putting it back into the case. I'm wondering if the case is a bit small? Anyways, gotta go back to the hospital soon, so won't get to crank the baby up till later this week.

[DrPCR]

Ok got to play it today for about 1 hr.

Guitar feels great and of course looks great. Ok lets get to the tones.

Clean neck, wow, very clear, when split, great strat tones, sounds much more brighter than a couple of my BRW necks, could be the ebony board.

Cranked, sounds real nice. Neck, nice, but much more muddier than my favorite LPs which I guage all my bridge pup sounds, so its gotta be the BRW neck.
Bridge, sounds great, but doesn't have the bite that some of my favorite guitars have. Can't place it, but just doesn't have that growl, that my PRS artist III has with the same pups.

Piezo, WOW, now this is what makes this semi-hollow killer. Just sounds amazing, and the blend is great. Sounds like just playing a great acoustic, It just sings.

I had 5 of favorite guitars out, and a/bed it with the schroeder. Just unplugged and put the other guitar in, all the same settings.

Overall great guitar, you can't have a guitar do everything, even though I put almost everything I could ever want into this guitar, it comes close.
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/images/misc/progress.gif

[bsic]

DrPCR--- what pickups do you have installed?

The comment about the muddiness is something ive heard from other BRW owners (of course i cannot test myself as i have never even seen a lefty BRW :( ). Ive gone back and forth on this in my mind, but i also hear others say it adds so much to the sound, and definitely the feel. Anyone else have comments on BRW vs. mohag tone wise?

[vangit]

DrPCR--- what pickups do you have installed?

The comment about the muddiness is something ive heard from other BRW owners (of course i cannot test myself as i have never even seen a lefty BRW :( ). Ive gone back and forth on this in my mind, but i also hear others say it adds so much to the sound, and definitely the feel. Anyone else have comments on BRW vs. mohag tone wise?

I had Brazilian neck McCarty that the good Doc steared me towards (Doc was helping me put together a poor mans ME). I though the Mc- pups were total mud, much more so than a mahog neck McCarty and much more than my current McTrem IRW. I swaped it out with an RP I had and it sounded amazeing. The Seymours I have in my Braz neck Schroeder have no mud at all, they are very balanced, full and articulate. I think Braz is a bit senstive to pups and I have no idea what a semi-hallow does to the responce of pups?

[guitarnyc]

I had Brazilian neck McCarty that the good Doc steared me towards (Doc was helping me put together a poor mans ME). I though the Mc- pups were total mud, much more so than a mahog neck McCarty and much more than my current McTrem IRW. I swaped it out with an RP I had and it sounded amazeing. The Seymours I have in my Braz neck Schroeder have no mud at all, they are very balanced, full and articulate. I think Braz is a bit senstive to pups and I have no idea what a semi-hallow does to the responce of pups?

I must say that when I first got my schroeder I thought it was muddier than my favorite LP but after playing it more and more, I figured out how to utulize the BRW board and neck as far as the EQing and effects. The PUPS were Wagnor Shredders...going to go with some of Bryan's PUPS now and give them a round :D
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[Schroeder]

I got no "mud" through my 65 Twin Reverb but that is a crystal clear amp. Will, I know you play a lot of gain, I would experiment with the tones of this guitar. Keeping all the settings the same for a semi-hollow and a Les Paul might not get you where you want to go. But as you said, no guitar can do everything the best. I feel like I could strap this guitar on at a gig and play it for four hours. You can get SO many tones out of it. And like you say it is a compromise. The semi-hollow and piezo will make beautiful acoustic-ish sounds!! I think experimenting a bit with the settings or even what amp you play it through could really help. Get a Twin if you don't have one!!! It sounded fantastic in my shop!!

Hope you got my email today.

[Schroeder]

I just got this pic from Will. I thought i would share!

Looks like there was some rubbing on the case during shipping. The red you can see on the back binding edge is the fur from the case lining. I should note that this case is a fitted case and not the rectangular shaped case that comes with standard Schroeder guitars. I do not anticipate that this will be a recurring problem as it is practically impossible with the rectangular cases.

Will, I hope to get it back at some point so I can touch up the repair. I know you down-played it in your message but it still bugs me!! I want to make it right.
Thanks for the review. I would love to hear clips A/B with your other guitars too!!

Thanks for a very inspiring and challenging build!!! It was truly a benchmark guitar for me with many prototype features that have become standards for Schroeder guitars. Please enjoy it as you get to know this guitar.

J

http://www.schroederguitars.com/photos/Will%20finish%20issue%20small.jpg

[DrPCR]

Hi all, thanks for all the comments.

I agree with Jason, I didn't tweak the settings, just plugged it in with my standard settings.

I did notice if I cranked up the volume, it sounded better! definately not a low volume guitar.

Its definately a guitar I can play for hrs, feels great and the neck feels great.

I'll try to make some clips comparing it other guitars when I have some time off, it will be awhile though.

Jason, I had a twin, and yes its one of the best sounding clean amps around, but I didn't have a mesa v twin then, so I had to get a dual recto instead.

I played it out of my Koch multitone, and the cleans on that are up there with the twins IMHO but cranked its a demon too.

[vangit]

I have limited experience with Braz necks, so I'm not sure if it's primarily a Braz characteristic, but Tommy and Jason are right that playing with the EQ makes a big difference.

I'm sure when Doc has the time to put down his scalpel and dial it in, it will smoke. Looking foward to Docs clips, he got some fast fingers!! Guess he has lightning finger controll from being in surgery all the time!

[DrPCR]

Ok, put in some more time with the SC through all my different amps.

Played it through the Marshall JCM, Mesa Dual recto, Egnater.

It did very well in all, and actually sounded the best through the Marshall JCM800. The vintage rock crunch was much better sounding through the JCM. At high gain again, it was lacking some "ommf" but I didn't expect it to be a shredder.

I was playing some old rush through the JCM800 and the SC really nailed some of those tones, and I know why Alex stuck to the ES355 and this howard roberts fusion. Funny, I didn't get much feedback with high gain amps, but with the marshall it was wailing away, which was great with the trem, was really playing with the feedback.

Ok, thats it for now

[vangit]

Very cool Doc. Get that video camera hooked up!!!!