Tour Guitar Progress

[imported_Schroeder]

I got a chance to do some work on the Tour Guitar this weekend as well. The fignerboard is clamped and being glued. Body was nearly completed a month or so ago.

The body with one piece quilt top...
http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7047326/93268703.jpg

Black limba body...

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7047326/93268697.jpg

Carving the top...

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7047326/93367670.jpg

Lower horn carve in progress...

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7047326/93573341.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

Carve complete.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/104917452.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

"S" inlay at 12th fret. Gold pearl with aluminum band in the center. This is prior to epoxying.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/104916408.jpg

Clamping fingerboard to neck.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/104916438.jpg

[imported_DrPCR]

I think anyone who gets to play this guitar on the tour, has to make a recording with it so we can hear its tone with different amps and different player styles.

[imported_Schroeder]

That is a great idea Will. Photos with all of the players too.

Specs for the tour guitar (I just need to decide on color for the top):

Body
Body Style: Doublecut
Top Material: One piece billow quilt
Back Material: Black limba
Neck
Material: Select Indian Rosewood
Fingerboard: Ebony
Carve: Wide, fat, and round
Inlays: ìSî inlay at 12th
Scale: 25î
Radius: 10î
Nut: Graphite
Truss Rod Cover: Rosewood

Hardware Mixed Gold/Chrome
Bridge: Tone-Pros adjustable
Tuners: Schaller Locking
Strap Locks: Schaller

Electronics
Pickups: Wagner Shredders
Controls: 1 Vol/1Tone/3-Way

Finish
Color: ???
Body Finish material: Nitrocellulose
Neck finish: Tung Oil

[imported_vangit]

Fantastic. Has anyone ever played/heard a rosewood neck with Ebony board before? Is that what is ont eh Chopper?

[imported_Schroeder]

The Chopper has a Braz RW neck with ebony board. Sounds incredible. I am a big fan of the ebony board/rosewood combo. I want to spread the word with the Tour guitar!

[imported_Schroeder]

Here is the status of the neck...

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105043345.jpg

12th fret inlay detail. Gold pearl with a narrow aluminum band.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105043915.jpg

Gluing headstock wings

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105043277.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

Neck is fitted. Tight as a drum. This is gonna be a good one...

[imported_DrPCR]

sweet looking, can't wait to get my hands on that thing and rip.

put it through my koch, bogner, vox, marshall and hopefull a diezel

Tight as a drum huh... I would have used tight as...

[imported_vangit]

Fantastic Jason.
Glad I got my order in, I'm sure when people see this guitar "on tour", jaws are going to drop.

Doc, have you figured out how to use the "recording thingy" you got yet? I want to hear you rip on this.

[imported_DrPCR]

not yet, haven't had time, but I will when this thing gets to me!

[imported_Schroeder]

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/105085780.jpg

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/105085800.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

Note that the headstock still looks like the robot on Lost in Space. I will be cutting the shape today and thinning the headstock. Then I will press in the frets, and finally carve the back of the neck.

[imported_dan desy]

Hello, hello, it's me! :)
Cool site, cool guitars, man!

So what's the scoop with the tour? Let's set ground rules and expected costs.

[imported_Schroeder]

Dan!!! Glad you made it my friend!! You are welcome here. No "Ban Dan" campaigns, I promise.

[imported_dan desy]

Dan!!! Glad you made it my friend!! You are welcome here. No "Ban Dan" campaigns, I promise.

No? Shoot! Maybe I'll just quit, then ;)

[imported_vangit]

Hello, hello, it's me! :)


Alright Dan! Welcome! Are you sure you want to be on the tour? That's the firs step to your Schroeder SingleCut-Trem.............. :lol: Sure would be nice with Jasons favorite neck; rosewood and Ebony board :!:

[imported_Schroeder]

On the Agenda: TOUR ideas.

How the hell will this all come together? I have some ideas. I am thinking about it starting in a REALLY good case. :) Maybe a flight case as long as it doesn't drive up the cost of shipping too high. Then we set up a schedule with anticipated delivery times. The good thing is that if we plan well, the delivery times will be relatively short because the guitar will be going short distances. I am thinking US Postal Service ground but I am open to suggestions. Everyone has a shipping horror story these days. I think I will set up a few polls to get concensus on how long you guys want to keep it, what method of shipping, etc.

Any ideas to make it go smooth, let me know.

[imported_dan desy]

I don't mean to sound cheap, but I'd like to know what kind of costs we expect for shipping. Also, according to the original tour map, I'd be shipping it to Canada - how much more does that mean?...

Stu, Shhhhh about that SC Trem! But Ebony on Rw would certainly be my choice!
Probably a hipshot trem, too. Ah, to dream! After my upcoming Swan, I'm guessing it'll be a while before I accumulate that kind of money! :cry:

[imported_Pierre]

Hey Dan, are you going to ship this beauty to me? I guess so. :P

I guess each one is going to cover the charge to ship the guitar to the next guy.

I am also curious about the amount to ship it safe from one point to the next one.

I still can't believe that this tour is really going to happen. I guess it would be one of this great things that come out of the Internet from time to time...

Pierre,

[imported_DrPCR]

Ok Jason, get it to me by OCTOBER, I'm going to be driving up to montreal, so I can drop it off at Pierre's

Unless my singlecut is ready then, I can let Pierre see both.

ok, ok I know you have only 2 hands...

[imported_dan desy]

Ok Jason, get it to me by OCTOBER, I'm going to be driving up to montreal, so I can drop it off at Pierre's

Unless my singlecut is ready then, I can let Pierre see both.

ok, ok I know you have only 2 hands...

Sounds good to me! I just drove back from MontrÈal!

[imported_kev]

First, Jason and anyone else (Elizabeth, Liz, EB, ____ ?? :wink: ) helping to put this tour together, thank you!

I realize this is putting the cart before the horse, but like Dan says, we need some ground rules for the tour. For example, if we decide that 3 days per stop is best, truss rod tweaking should not be done unless absolutely deemed necessary and only then after contacting Jason, as the neck won't fully settle from each adjustment until it's in the next person's hands. Just food for thought.

Another prime example: I prefer .011-.048 strings, but I'm not going to ask that the tour guitar be set up that way.

As a fun ground rule suggestion, we should each supply at least one sticker that's unique to our area of the country (your own band/restaurants/bars/shops etc). Whether or not the stickers should be slapped on the case yet, I couldn't say. What's a rock and roll tour without stickers?

kev

[imported_dan desy]

First, Jason and anyone else (Elizabeth, Liz, EB, ____ ?? :wink: ) helping to put this tour together, thank you!

I realize this is putting the cart before the horse, but like Dan says, we need some ground rules for the tour. For example, if we decide that 3 days per stop is best, truss rod tweaking should not be done unless absolutely deemed necessary and only then after contacting Jason, as the neck won't fully settle from each adjustment until it's in the next person's hands. Just food for thought.

Another prime example: I prefer .011-.048 strings, but I'm not going to ask that the tour guitar be set up that way.

As a fun ground rule suggestion, we should each supply at least one sticker that's unique to our area of the country (your own band/restaurants/bars/shops etc). Whether or not the stickers should be slapped on the case yet, I couldn't say. What's a rock and roll tour without stickers?

kev

Cool suggestions, especially the stickers!

But .011? I don't think so!!! :shock:

[imported_kev]

Cool suggestions, especially the stickers!

But .011? I don't think so!!! :shock:

Everything sounds better on 11!

As yet another example, what if a string breaks during the tour? Are we going to have a couple of extra packs of strings in the case for such a thing?

Otherwise, the next person after me's gonna be in for a surprise! Chant it with me: .011, .011, .011 !!! :lol:

kev

[imported_Schroeder]

Neck progress....

Using the Safe-T-Planer to thin the neck to final thickness.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105311244.jpg

Ready to fret! Then the neck carve...

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105311208.jpg
http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105311219.jpg
http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105311224.jpg

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

neck is beautiful looking...my personal preference are 11's also...but ultimately it's up to Jason on what he thinks would "present" his guitar the best to potential buyers right ?

[imported_vangit]

Looks awsome Jason. It's wild watching how it happens.

[imported_Schroeder]

Hey guys/gals(?),

We are looking into ways to minimize the burden on shipping for you all. Some good ideas bouncing about. I will make an announcement when we have things squared away.

Jason

[imported_Schroeder]

By the way, I will likely be setting up the guitar for 10s.

[imported_dan desy]

Hey guys/gals(?),

We are looking into ways to minimize the burden on shipping for you all. Some good ideas bouncing about. I will make an announcement when we have things squared away.

Jason

Sounds great, Jason! Can't wait to read the updates!

[imported_Schroeder]

Bryan,
The buffer is up and running!!! It should be buffed out by tomorrow night. I have pictures but my picturetrail account is temporarily down for upgrades. I will post some teaser pics tomorrow.

(insert suspenseful music) :D

[imported_Schroeder]

I was thinking about the abuse that this guitar might suffer going across the country so I decided that I would go with stainless steel frets on the Tour Guitar. They may handle the stress a little better! They are the weakest link when it comes to an oft played guitar. So we'll see if they last longer. They were honestly not that much different to install than nickel-silver.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/105779857.jpg

Now it is on to carving the back of the neck.

[imported_vangit]

I was thinking about the abuse that this guitar might suffer going across the country so I decided that I would go with stainless steel frets on the Tour Guitar. They may handle the stress a little better! They are the weakest link when it comes to an oft played guitar. So we'll see if they last longer. They were honestly not that much different to install than nickel-silver.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/105779857.jpg

Now it is on to carving the back of the neck.

So Jason, are the stainless now an option on all ordered gutiars? :D
I played Will's Driskill over the weekend, the stainless felt excellent. Noticed how slick they were on bends immediatley.

[imported_Schroeder]

Stainless is officially an option!!!

[imported_Schroeder]

Neck carve pics... This is pictured with the neck for Mike's doublecut. I used it as a reference for building this one. That neck has a nice round fat carve, I wanted the same for this one.

Note the yellow crayon line down the center that tells me where NOT to carve. Remember the neck was planed to final thickness so i do not want to cut into that at this point.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105907053.jpg

Rough carve is completed usomg a bastard file.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105907049.jpg

Twins... (or triplets, as Bryan's guitar has a very similar neck) The Tour guitar neck is on the top. Notice it is shorter since it will be a 22 fret neck as opposed to Mike's which is a 24.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105907044.jpg

And here is a shot with the neck profiles mirrored to show the heels are identical and Mike's neck (the 24 fretter) is slightly taller. The Tour neck on the left is still in need of fine sanding (thus the whitish areas) but the shaping is essentially complete.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/105907039.jpg

[imported_Shadscbr]

Looks great Jason....I love to read your journal-like entires into the picture parade :)

Shad

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

yes it's nice to see how you go about making these guitars...these are questions I'm sure a lot of us have always had about HOW guitars are built :D

[imported_DrPCR]

Mine's definately going to be stainless, I think I told Jason thats the way all guitars should go!

Had a blast with my buddy Stu and John Cowan. I think John will be migrating here soon.


Stu was shredding away on the Driskill Lava.

I was worried abit there, my title as shredder was in jeopardy :)

[imported_Schroeder]

So maybe stainless frets are STNADARD now!!! :) I did not that the stainless frets were quite a bit harder on the tools when I was file them flush with the fingerboard but that is ok by me. That means that the wear on them will be less.

By the way, Will and Stu, PLEASE post something on your experience this weekend! I would love to here about it. And don't just barry it in this thread. Put it in the Lounge for everyone to check out! MEs? Drisills? I am dying here!! :D

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

just thought I would post an interesting article about stainless steel frets that made sense. I will definetly be listening for the difference in tone when I get to check out a guitar with stainless frets as I'm still up in the air after reading this article...time to do more research, Off To Google ! :D

http://safeurl.de/http://edromanguitars.com/tech/stainlessfrets.htm

[imported_Chun13]

Nice guitar ! Too bad I'm too far away to try it, guys who have the chance to try it, please be really precise in your tone and playability repport as it will be my only point of comparison :)

[imported_Schroeder]

Pickup holes are cut. Pics to follow tonight.

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

can't wait to see the updated pics Jason...what is the pickup config going to be ? I know it's going to have Wagners...is it going to be hum/hum ? any tapping ? :D

[imported_Schroeder]

Haven't decided on the wiring yet. Will definitely be hum/hum. More to come in the next few days.

[imported_edgarallanpoe]

Is it too late to get in on this? I would love to get involved if it isn't too late.

[imported_Schroeder]

Nope, you are in. Anyone who has placed an order can be in if they want.

[imported_Schroeder]

Much progress the last couple days. Woodwork is nearly complete. I slimmed the neck down because Bryan's felt so nice. This one just felt a bit too beefy after Bryan's was done.

Top...

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/106612502.jpg
http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/106612516.jpg
http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/106612508.jpg

Back...
http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/106612519.jpg

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/106612513.jpg

Cavity...
http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/106612500.jpg

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

Cavity...
http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/106612500.jpg

oh wow....I love how in the cavity you can see the flamed maple as well...I guess I've never really noticed it in other guitars but is that how most are done ? :?

[imported_Schroeder]

Ya, Tommy. Pretty standard it is just usually covered with a bunch of wires and even sometimes a coating to help ground the guitar. I dig it too. It really should be dyed to match the top.
J

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

It really should be dyed to match the top.
J

ohhh how hard is it to do that ? :D :D

[imported_Schroeder]

It would actually be easy!! It is a $600 upcharge though.... ;) LOL just kidding.

[imported_Schroeder]

Neck is gluing up as we speak. Body is final sanded. Heel is shaped. Neck is about 99% done but close enough for gluing.

Pics to come....

[imported_Schroeder]

Here are the jack plate and the truss rod cover. I sort of like the "S" jack plate. It is growing on me. The whole piece is curved to match the contour of the body.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/107535236.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

And here is the body ready for stain and lacquer...

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/107532003.jpg

[imported_Bryan]

Lookin sweet!!

I like that jack plate..Great idea Jason. :D

[imported_vangit]

The jackplate is very cool Jason :!:

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

yeah that jackplate idea was very cool...I would be worried about it cracking though like the Les Paul jack plates are notorious for...seems like the wood wouldn't hold up very long in a "tour" situation ?

[imported_Shadscbr]

The tour guitar is looking great, I really like the jackplate!

Any color decisions yet?

Shad

[imported_edgarallanpoe]

yeah that jackplate idea was very cool...I would be worried about it cracking though like the Les Paul jack plates are notorious for...seems like the wood wouldn't hold up very long in a "tour" situation ?

+1

Living in Pittsburgh subjects guitars to some serious extremes. 90+ with 90% humidity in the summer, and 20 degrees with 20% humidity in the winter. If the guitar is gigged (mine will be) it will be subjected to these changes. I would be curious to see what Jason thinks about this...I love the idea of the wood plates, but not at the expense of functionality. I will trust his judgement on this...he obviously knows a helluva lot more about wood and guitars than I do. LOL!!!

[imported_Schroeder]

Les Paul jack plates are plastic though and usually break because there isn't a lot of room between the hole and the edge. This is a very small piece of wood so the chance of it cracking due to increase or decrease in moisture content are, in my opinion, very small. The chances are much higher that it will break if someone cranks the screws down too tight, or it is slammed on the ground or otherwise abused!! I can't really control that.

I want the Tour guitar to showcase some of the options that you can get through Schroeder guitars. Wood plates, pickup rings, etc are something I want to feature. For you guys ordering guitars, I will put whatever you would like on them! :D

[imported_edgarallanpoe]

Les Paul jack plates are plastic though and usually break because there isn't a lot of room between the hole and the edge. This is a very small piece of wood so the chance of it cracking due to increase or decrease in moisture content are, in my opinion, very small. The chances are much higher that it will break if someone cranks the screws down too tight, or it is slammed on the ground or otherwise abused!! I can't really control that.

I want the Tour guitar to showcase some of the options that you can get through Schroeder guitars. Wood plates, pickup rings, etc are something I want to feature. For you guys ordering guitars, I will put whatever you would like on them! icon_biggrin.gif

Good enough for me...makes perfect sense. But this begs the next logical question...

Will it effect my tone? :twisted: :P :shock: :lol: :o :D

[imported_Bryan]

[quote]

Will it effect my tone? :twisted: :P :shock: :lol: :o :D

Of course it will..Use maple if you want a bright snappy sound when plugging in your cord and rosewood if you want it a little darker.. :D :wink:

[imported_Schroeder]

[quote]

Will it effect my tone? :twisted: :P :shock: :lol: :o :D

Of course it will..Use maple if you want a bright snappy sound when plugging in your cord and rosewood if you want it a little darker.. :D :wink:

LOL!! I can see this being argued on HC!!

[imported_Schroeder]

Well, if you have been wondering what I have been doing in my free time...

I have been agonizing over the color of the Tour Guitar! It is so much easier if one of you guys is telling me exactly what you want! But i took teh advice of Shad and Woody who were the only guys to my knowledge who recommended colors for this baby. So I started off staining it a deep brown:
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/107807803.jpg

Then I sanded it down which left the dark areas brown and the light areas nearly bare wood. I probably went through about 7-8 versions of color before arriving at the final color. First it was too orange, then it was too dark, then i saw this beautiful yellow archtop by a guy name Taku Sakashta. http://www.sakashtaguitars.com/Sakashta/archtops/Opera-2/images/ts_opera2_back.jpg And I made it more yellow. I could not be more satisfied. Here it is dry with no finish.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/107807798.jpg

And the back...

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/107807800.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

And here it is with the first coat of vinyl sealer...

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/107807793.jpg
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/107807796.jpg
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/107807781.jpg
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/107807789.jpg

[imported_Schroeder]

I am off to spray one more coat of sealer and then I can begin the nitro coats. Keep in mind too that the sealer coat is a matte finish so it will really light up when it is hit with the glossy nitro.

[imported_Shadscbr]

YEAH BABY!!

That looks sweet Jason :)

Shad

[imported_edgarallanpoe]

That looks amazing...and its exactly the color I was thinking when I posted that it should be a very subtle burst. Kind of like my Baker Bengal Tiger B1. I love it...great call Jason.

[imported_vangit]

Great choice Jason. Have you named the color yet?

[imported_Schroeder]

Thanks guys. Rob - Sorry, I forgot you had mentioned the burst. I actually considered a very subtle burst and had that in my head as I was dying it (and re-dying it!). But it appears to have a slight burst anyway because of the contours even though it is a uniform stain. Crazy. Thanks for pushing me toward a more natural color guys. I was really leaning toward a candy color like green or red. I am so glad I went with the multi-stain amber. More to come....

[imported_Schroeder]

I am thinking about calling it "Pale Ale." Sierra Nevada Brewery is in Chico where I went to school for 7.5 years and where I built my first complete six string guitars. Pale Ale is their most famous beer.

Pretty close match!!

http://www.maruhn.de/bilder/bier/bier2_0704.jpg

[imported_Bryan]

Thats an awesome color. :D

I think it looks like a rattle snake.

[imported_woody]

Jason,
The finish turns out great eh! can't wait to see the final gloss nitro.

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

great job and choice on the color Jason ! looks like "Pale Ale" is almost ready for her big national tour ! :D

[imported_kev]

I am thinking about calling it "Pale Ale." Sierra Nevada Brewery is in Chico where I went to school for 7.5 years and where I built my first complete six string guitars. Pale Ale is their most famous beer.

Pretty close match!!

http://www.maruhn.de/bilder/bier/bier2_0704.jpg

The guitar looks great Jason! That is a one piece top isn't it? I guess it hadn't crossed my mind until I saw it with the sealer coat on it. Sweet.

Great beer! Man, I'm thirsty!!!

With a brewery like Sierra Nevada that close, it would have taken me 7.5 years to build anything, let alone a few guitars. :D


kev

[imported_Schroeder]

Hey guys!
I spent some time last night filling the pores in the black limba. This is a step that I skipped on Bryan's guitar. I ended up putting a LOT more coats of nitro on Bryan's than I planned (which got basically sanded off in the leveling process!). So I am wising up.

I used a rosewood colored pore filler which looks really cool. I will do one more coat of sealer, then another application of filler today. Then it is flat sanding and on to the nitro...

Hey Kev! In my defense I got my BS and a master's in that 7.5 years!! But I had my share of Pale Ale while I was there. Sierra Nevada was still considered a "Micro-Brewery" when I started at Chico in 1990. By 1998, it was about 5 times the size and shipping worldwide! Kind of an inspiring story.

And yes, it most definitely is a one piece top. I also did the boutique guitar hallmark of angling the maple board slightly on the back wood so that it looks more dramatic! You can only do this with a one piece top. Check out the pic below. You can see the screws in the top so it doesn't slip during clamping. Other companies actually use a nail gun to prevent glue slip!!

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7047326/93268709.jpg

[imported_kev]

Sorry man! I didn't mean to imply anything about your work ethic. I just know how I am around good beer! :oops:

That's cool tip about angling the top. I had no idea.


kev

[imported_Schroeder]

Sorry man! I didn't mean to imply anything about your work ethic. I just know how I am around good beer! :oops:


No sorry necessary, kev. That is the running joke between me and my friends and family. "YOU WENT TO CHICO FOR HOW LONG?" LOL!! :D Pretty funny. I didn't take that wrong at all. I have been known to have the occasional beer as well!! :) :lol:

[imported_Jo]

Hello... guess who? :D

Can I get in on the tour if it's coming to Maryland?

[imported_vangit]

Hey Jo, welcome! Read these progress threads at your own risk....... :twisted: Jason is making some incredible stuff.

[imported_Big Mike]

SWEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!

Can't wait to see that finished!

Bay Area tour?? Or do I just need to jump in the truck and drive up :D :D

[imported_vangit]

Mikkus joins the party :!: :!: :!:

[imported_Bryan]

Welcome Jo and Mike!!

Nice to have both of you here.. :D

[imported_Schroeder]

Welcome Jo and Mike! Elizabeth will be happy to know there is another female present. You will have to teach her the THWAP! when the guys get out of line! :D

No problem about getting in on the Tour. I actually had hoped for the faithful BAMers like yourselves to express interest.

[imported_Big Mike]

Oh yeah. Would love to Jason! I still think I need to drive up. Would love to see some stuff in progress. Too cool!

It's really got me excited to see you giving this a go. Terrific!

Stu! That's Mykkus with a 'Y' Jo, Thwap him as the first official one. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[imported_Jo]

Don't worry, I got your back Mykkus!

Mikkus joins the party :!: :!: :!:
Get it right, and it's Mr Mykkus for you.
http://kitepower.com/prs/gifs/whip2.gif ;)

Now all y'all behave before Elizabeth and I have to come here and straighten you bad boys out. http://kitepower.com/prs/gifs/whip.gif


:mrgreen:

[imported_Bryan]

Now all y'all behave before Elizabeth and I have to come here and straighten you bad boys out. http://kitepower.com/prs/gifs/whip.gif


:mrgreen:

This place is getting funner by the minute.. :D

[imported_vangit]

Don't worry, I got your back Mykkus!

Mikkus joins the party :!: :!: :!:
Get it right, and it's Mr Mykkus for you.
http://kitepower.com/prs/gifs/whip2.gif ;)

:mrgreen:

Sorry Miss Jo, it's Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ,Mr Mykkus ......Got it :lol:

[imported_DrPCR]

well if it isn't my british maiden here. Jo if you get the tour guitar, you have to play it and record clips with it. Thats the price!!!

and this one piece quilt top with IRW won't suck like some we have seen ;)

cheers luv

[imported_Jo]

Hey Doc (are those your bones in your avatar?)... uh huh, got it , play and record clips. Will do! :D

[imported_DrPCR]

Hey Doc (are those your bones in your avatar?)... uh huh, got it , play and record clips. Will do! :D

no one of my patients, an older lady that needed a knee replacement. How are them joints ;)

So you going to ask Jason to build you an union jack guitar?

[imported_Jo]

A union jack guitar.. hmmmm now there's an idea.

I wonder how hard it would be to stain one so the grain would show through rather than it all being opaque.
Hmmmmm...... :)

Maybe not, it might look too cluttered.

[imported_Schroeder]

The staining in different colors can be done. The key would be to picnstripe over the stransitions so you get a nice distinct line.

[imported_Jo]

The staining in different colors can be done. The key would be to picnstripe over the stransitions so you get a nice distinct line.Pinstripe? You mean as having a line between the two colours? Would that be an inlay or ??

Is this how PRS did that red, gold and green rasta Custom that Carlos plays? Or did they manage to line up the stain lines exact?

[imported_Schroeder]

I was thinking a painted pinstripe like they do on Choppers and Hot Rods at teh edge of the flame. Remember the Tremonti Tribal controversy where the edges were apparently a little fuzzy? This would cover that up. The inlay idea would be very cool and a LOT of work!!

[imported_Big Mike]

What about a purfliung channel like on the S2's Jason? Could be cool. Paua or natural maple or something to split it up.

But personally, I want a buck Owens Tele, so you know I'm out of my mind!!!!


http://okjunc.junction.net/~krash/BuckOwensTele.gif

[imported_Schroeder]

Pics of the nitro...

Shiny but you can see how rough it is at this point. This is after about 4 very thin coats. In the first pic, you can see the dark pore filler.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/108319601.jpg
http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/108319591.jpg
http://pic7.picturetrail.com:80/VOL208/995811/7937889/108319596.jpg

[imported_sleepingtiger]

That's a beauty, Jason!

[imported_Shadscbr]

Looks great Jason...the tour guitar is really progressing nicely :)

Shad

[imported_Schroeder]

I didn't realize how bad I shook the camera but you get the idea. Here is teh backplate that matches the top. It was taken from a scrap of the top wood.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/108327019.jpg

[imported_Bryan]

Lookin purdy... :D

[imported_JohnnyBoy]

Looks great, Jason! Love that matching backplate.

John

[imported_Shadscbr]

I love it!!....I just may have to pester you about doing one of those for mine :)

Shad

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

that color is beautiful !! that back cover plate is going to look gorgeous on that dark back !

[imported_Schroeder]

I got the Tour Guitar strung up today and I am all giddy like a schoolgirl!! It sounds better than I ever anticipated acoustically!! I cannot believe the resonance. It is so weird, I move my head toward the headstock and I can hear the notes jumping off the fingerboard and the neck (this neck is extra wide and fairly fat). Then I move my head toward the body and I can hear notes jumping out of the body too. Plus I can feel the resonance in my stomach from the limba and in my hand from the rosewood neck. I am so dang excited to plug this thing in. As soon as I put the first string on and started tuning it, I could tell what it would sound like.

I still have some finish issues to deal with. I have sanding marks that did not buff out that I am going to take care of after the frets are level. The stainless frets are nice even before dressing I can tell they are going to be smooth. Not too much impact on tone but maybe a touch brighter. The ebony is really doing its job to make the attack snappy. As you all probably know by now, ebony is my number one choice for fingerboard wood! And I feel it is an amazing compliment to rosewood necks. But I digress.

Here she is so far... A little rough still but sounding really good!!

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/110676095.jpg

[imported_vangit]

Looks incredible Jason, and you could not ask for a better sound report! Congrats.

[imported_Shadscbr]

Looks great Jason!!

For some reason...looking at the tour guitar makes me thirsty for a nice beer ;)

Shad

[imported_Schroeder]

Hey Stu! Hey Shad!

Here is one more pic. I took it this morning in the light. I really hope that seeing this guitar gets you guys a little fired up about your guitars!

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/110699627.jpg

[imported_sleepingtiger]

Like a sunrise on a tiger's back. Glowing!

[imported_Bryan]

Hey Stu! Hey Shad!

Here is one more pic. I took it this morning in the light. I really hope that seeing this guitar gets you guys a little fired up about your guitars!

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/110699627.jpg

Damn, that looks so nice!!!

[imported_JohnnyBoy]

Hey Stu! Hey Shad!

Here is one more pic. I took it this morning in the light. I really hope that seeing this guitar gets you guys a little fired up about your guitars!

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL208/995811/7937889/110699627.jpg

Um, that would be a YES!!!!! Looks fantastic Jason!

John

[imported_vangit]

OH YEAH!!!! My fav colors. LOVE PALE ALE!

[imported_Schroeder]

Hey Bryan! Hey John!
Thanks so much.

Bryan, looks a bit familiar doesn't it? :D

[imported_sleepingtiger]

Soooo, when does she go out & what is the "pecking order"?

[imported_WHY_U_TRY]

the tour guitar is coming along beautifully...you're doing a great job on it Jason !

[imported_Shadscbr]

Everyone is right...the tour guitar is looking sweet from all angles....and yes, I am getting fired up not only about my guitar, but everyone else's too. :D

thanks for keeping us GASSED up!!

Shad

[imported_Jo]

Wow, that looks spectacular Jason. :D

[imported_DrPCR]

Soooo, when does she go out & what is the "pecking order"?

Personally, the pecking order should be people who are paying customers and have JS guitars on order IMHO. I think that is fair, then others. We put our money where our mouth is and I think its safe to say we can be "trusted" more. If you don't return the guitar or move it along the chain, Jason keeps your deposit and your new guitar!

[imported_Schroeder]

Thanks guys and gal! ;)

Just for logistical purposes, the order in which people will receive it is based on geography. That is really the simplest way to get it around the country and the cheapest!! So it will likely start in California and work its way back east (either north of south, just depends on where the bulk of the people are). I hope that makes sense.

I will hopefully have it about wrapped up and begin play testing it in the next 2 weeks.

Jason

[imported_Schroeder]

Here is the latest on the Tour Guitar. Also notice that I have a prototype solid Braz RW bridge on it. I may or may not send this on the road with that bridge but it is cool!! And it sounds great! I have been playing this guitar nonstop for the last couple days and I am very happy with it.

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/group-shot.gif
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/body-detail-brwbridge.gif
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/neck-detail.gif
http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/headstock-detail.gif

[imported_JohnnyBoy]

Gorgeous!!!! Really ramping up the GAS now........

John

[imported_Shadscbr]

Hey Jason, that bridge is SWEET!!

Like we talked about a while back, I would love it if one of those would end up on my 7 string :D

Shad

[imported_Schroeder]

Thanks guys. This solid wood bridge design is still being smoothed out. The next one will have a few surprises! My team of engineers in the R&D department is working on it right now.... ;) :D

[imported_Bryan]

My team of engineers in the R&D department is working on it right now.... ;) :D

I thought I was head of R&D.. :D
Send that sucker over here :lol:

[imported_edgarallanpoe]

WOW!!!

That's so bad....it should be in detention. :D

[imported_Jo]

Wow, that rosewood bridge is cool Jason.

Does it have the little screws for adjusting it forwards and backwards or is it totally fixed?

Very, very nice! <where's the thumbs up smiley :) >

[imported_Schroeder]

Hey Jo!
I made this one completely fixed and intonated it based on where the strings leave the bridge. It will be easy to make it adjustable on future models. The other thing I have done with this bridge is cut grooves in the back of the wraparound to guide the strings into the correct location. I mainly wanted to see if it had the tone I was looking for and see if it was strong enough to hold string tension.
Jason

[imported_DrPCR]

jason, you better get a patent on that thing!!! beautiful !

[imported_Jo]

With the rosewood bridge (forgive me because I have no knowledge on how these things work) is there a risk that the tension of the strings would start to dig into the wood, or is BRW that hard?

[imported_Schroeder]

Jo,
Good question! Brazilian is hard wood. I have actually cut grooves in the back and top o f the bridge since the above pics were taken. This will help keep the strings in the proper spacing. I don't foresee deep grooving to be a problem because once the strings are in place they are not moving back and forth. I suppose if you changed your strings daily and drug the strung over teh top of the bridge it cuold eventually be a problem!

I will be making an ebony bridge (even harder wood than Braz) and I also have an alternate design that will have a harder surface at teh contact point of the bridge. I will keep you posted!!
Jason

[imported_woody]

I wish I live down in the States so I have the chance to play the tour guitar. :wink:

Jason, perhaps I should fly to California. when #6 is completed.

[imported_kev]

It's been a while since I posted, so I thought I'd start back up here. The guitar and that bridge look fantastic Jason!

Kev

[imported_Schroeder]

The guitar is done! Playing beautifully! The Wagner/RS Guitarworks Shredder pickups are a bit too hot and I will likely swap them out, but overall I am really in love with this guitar!!!

I decided to go with the rosewood backplate. It just looks right to me. Also, check the S shaped jackplate!! Love how that turned out... Plates were made from the same material as the neck (Indian Rosewood with special sauce to seal the neck!!).

http://www.schroederguitars.com/p/images/Early%20Guitars_group%20shot/jackplate.gif

[imported_Shadscbr]

Looks great Jason!! I love the jackplate, <raises hand> may I have one too? :D

Shad

[imported_vangit]

Jackplate is really, really sharp. Well done.

[imported_sleepingtiger]

I love the jackplate! Yet another personal touch to set it apart from the pack! Can I get a maple or ebony one for mine? I suspect I know the answer :D

[imported_JohnnyBoy]

Looks awesome Jason! Another thumbs up for the jackplate. :D

John

[imported_Big Mike]

Ah....but you guys should PLAY it.

Nice axe my man, NICE NICE axe.

[imported_CustomX]

OKay, so how do I get in line to play this gorgeous guitar...if you ship it to me or Robin (RedMax61 @ BaM) that will kill 2 birds with one stone.

[imported_sleepingtiger]

I oughta!....Get in line you knucklehead!(in my best Moe voice)

[imported_Schroeder]

Hey guys,
Thanks so much Mike!!! It was so great to meet you and the guys yesterday. I really appreciate your input. The reviews on the Tour guitar were pretty dang good. I feel really good about it. The biggest thing to come out of it is that the pickups were a bit too hot. I totally agree but did not have time to swap them out before Sunday. Mike had a really good suggestion about putting a standard, vintage sounding set of pickups in the guitar that everyone could reference. A middle-of-the-road pickup that was not too hot, not too mellow so that guys could guage what they wanted a bit better. Mike, I said it on BAM earlier but DAMN you can PLAY man!!!! Just a monster on the guitar. And a fantastic guy too. I really appreciate how cool you have been to me. This is a pretty daunting task to try to rub elbows with some amazing guitar makers.
More later. It was a long couple of days. Had a fantastic time but glad to be back home...
Jason

[imported_kev]

Alright! This puppy already has NorCal Jam mojo! I'm stoked to even be considered on the tour map. Ya'll don't give no nevermind to the BBQ sauce left on the strings, that's part of the NorCal Jam mojo from what I hear. 8)

Kev

[imported_DrPCR]

good to hear the jam went well.

The switchplate, nice! Jason, you building art or guitars??

[imported_John Hurtt]

Hey Jason and guys!

I checked this guitar out last Sunday at the NorCal jam. Really sweet, and Big Mike was sounding huge on it! Lot's of great ideas and details on this guitar. I dug the ebony on rosewood neck, the "S" jackplate was a cool idea, the logo was tasteful and distinctive and the workmanship was superb. You guys have seen the pics so you know that the cosmetics were killin'. I also thought that the pickups were a little hot for the average guy jamming by himself, but I think that the wood choices/pickup choice would really make this guitar cut great live with a band.

Anyway, just wanted to drop in and say "Hi".

John

[imported_vangit]

Hey Jason and guys!

I checked this guitar out last Sunday at the NorCal jam. Really sweet, and Big Mike was sounding huge on it! Lot's of great ideas and details on this guitar. I dug the ebony on rosewood neck, the "S" jackplate was a cool idea, the logo was tasteful and distinctive and the workmanship was superb. You guys have seen the pics so you know that the cosmetics were killin'. I also thought that the pickups were a little hot for the average guy jamming by himself, but I think that the wood choices/pickup choice would really make this guitar cut great live with a band.

Anyway, just wanted to drop in and say "Hi".

John

Thanks for the report John